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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 7:56:16 GMT -8
I don't understand the logic of trading your 3rd best player without your pick when you are winning the division. I understand it
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Post by CC on Mar 11, 2024 7:56:40 GMT -8
Scared to lose Clark
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Post by CC on Mar 11, 2024 7:56:49 GMT -8
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 7:57:38 GMT -8
is this deal better for me than dealing Joe for just the 04? maybe
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Post by Respected GM on Mar 11, 2024 8:05:01 GMT -8
I don't understand the logic of trading your 3rd best player without your pick when you are winning the division. I understand it Please enlighten me.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:06:02 GMT -8
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Post by habes on Mar 11, 2024 8:08:57 GMT -8
mcdyess is having a nice season but not sure he's been worth expirings to this point. if he keeps it up though this is a fair deal
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:13:53 GMT -8
mcdyess is having a nice season but not sure he's been worth expirings to this point. if he keeps it up though this is a fair deal Doing the same numbers he has been for a while?
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Post by habes on Mar 11, 2024 8:16:20 GMT -8
mcdyess is having a nice season but not sure he's been worth expirings to this point. if he keeps it up though this is a fair deal Doing the same numbers he has been for a while? he's shooting 87% ft vs 75% last season. 45.4% fg vs. 43% last season. rebounds are up, turnovers are down. not really close to the same guy as last season
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:17:51 GMT -8
Doing the same numbers he has been for a while? he's shooting 87% ft vs 75% last season. 45.4% fg vs. 43% last season. rebounds are up, turnovers are down. not really close to the same guy as last season and two seasons ago he shot 1.1% better similar rebounds more blocks
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:18:38 GMT -8
1996 Hornets 82 33.2 566 1282 .441 394 544 .724 5 37 .135 10.1 2.0 0.8 1.6 2.4 2 18.7 1997 76ers 77 32.2 372 857 .434 316 410 .771 2 17 .118 11.0 1.4 0.8 2.0 1.8 4 13.8 1998 Pacers 67 32.6 363 827 .439 271 368 .736 3 8 .375 11.7 1.7 0.6 2.2 1.6 5 14.9 1999 Pacers 82 34.7 581 1249 .465 435 539 .807 5 16 .313 11.0 1.6 0.7 2.4 2.0 4 19.5 2000 76ers 76 32.9 426 991 .430 336 450 .747 4 13 .308 10.7 1.3 1.0 2.1 1.9 5 15.7 2001 76ers 27 33.3 154 339 .454 120 138 .870 3 6 .500 11.6 0.9 1.0 2.0 1.6 0 16.0
you arent trading for the offense, the rebounding and block numbers, and those have been the same throughout
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Post by habes on Mar 11, 2024 8:19:59 GMT -8
he's shooting 87% ft vs 75% last season. 45.4% fg vs. 43% last season. rebounds are up, turnovers are down. not really close to the same guy as last season and two seasons ago he shot 1.1% better similar rebounds more blocks yeah he has one good season and four bad ones under his belt, if he's gonna be the 99 version then he's pretty good
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Post by habes on Mar 11, 2024 8:21:33 GMT -8
1996 Hornets 82 33.2 566 1282 .441 394 544 .724 5 37 .135 10.1 2.0 0.8 1.6 2.4 2 18.7 1997 76ers 77 32.2 372 857 .434 316 410 .771 2 17 .118 11.0 1.4 0.8 2.0 1.8 4 13.8 1998 Pacers 67 32.6 363 827 .439 271 368 .736 3 8 .375 11.7 1.7 0.6 2.2 1.6 5 14.9 1999 Pacers 82 34.7 581 1249 .465 435 539 .807 5 16 .313 11.0 1.6 0.7 2.4 2.0 4 19.5 2000 76ers 76 32.9 426 991 .430 336 450 .747 4 13 .308 10.7 1.3 1.0 2.1 1.9 5 15.7 2001 76ers 27 33.3 154 339 .454 120 138 .870 3 6 .500 11.6 0.9 1.0 2.0 1.6 0 16.0
you arent trading for the offense, the rebounding and block numbers, and those have been the same throughout what on earth are you talking about lmao if he's a high volume big with turnovers, i'm not ignoring his offense as an input? you always get into arguments where you cherry pick the thing that seems important to you. his offense is extremely important to his value
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Post by Respected GM on Mar 11, 2024 8:24:08 GMT -8
1996 Hornets 82 33.2 566 1282 .441 394 544 .724 5 37 .135 10.1 2.0 0.8 1.6 2.4 2 18.7 1997 76ers 77 32.2 372 857 .434 316 410 .771 2 17 .118 11.0 1.4 0.8 2.0 1.8 4 13.8 1998 Pacers 67 32.6 363 827 .439 271 368 .736 3 8 .375 11.7 1.7 0.6 2.2 1.6 5 14.9 1999 Pacers 82 34.7 581 1249 .465 435 539 .807 5 16 .313 11.0 1.6 0.7 2.4 2.0 4 19.5 2000 76ers 76 32.9 426 991 .430 336 450 .747 4 13 .308 10.7 1.3 1.0 2.1 1.9 5 15.7 2001 76ers 27 33.3 154 339 .454 120 138 .870 3 6 .500 11.6 0.9 1.0 2.0 1.6 0 16.0
you arent trading for the offense, the rebounding and block numbers, and those have been the same throughout We don't look at it under the microscope too often here, but MPG has to be above average than the standard for similar players. That has to be of some value I would think.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:30:08 GMT -8
1996 Hornets 82 33.2 566 1282 .441 394 544 .724 5 37 .135 10.1 2.0 0.8 1.6 2.4 2 18.7 1997 76ers 77 32.2 372 857 .434 316 410 .771 2 17 .118 11.0 1.4 0.8 2.0 1.8 4 13.8 1998 Pacers 67 32.6 363 827 .439 271 368 .736 3 8 .375 11.7 1.7 0.6 2.2 1.6 5 14.9 1999 Pacers 82 34.7 581 1249 .465 435 539 .807 5 16 .313 11.0 1.6 0.7 2.4 2.0 4 19.5 2000 76ers 76 32.9 426 991 .430 336 450 .747 4 13 .308 10.7 1.3 1.0 2.1 1.9 5 15.7 2001 76ers 27 33.3 154 339 .454 120 138 .870 3 6 .500 11.6 0.9 1.0 2.0 1.6 0 16.0
you arent trading for the offense, the rebounding and block numbers, and those have been the same throughout what on earth are you talking about lmao if he's a high volume big with turnovers, i'm not ignoring his offense as an input? you always get into arguments where you cherry pick the thing that seems important to you. his offense is extremely important to his value no because he doesnt go heavy into volume. This isnt a guy shooting 30 times a game. The difference in efficiency between last years terrible year and this year is about one missed shot every two games
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Post by Braz on Mar 11, 2024 8:32:02 GMT -8
So some think break did well others think mouse got off from a bad deal. Some just donβt even care and want more coffee
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Post by chipper on Mar 11, 2024 8:45:22 GMT -8
Interesting.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:45:47 GMT -8
what on earth are you talking about lmao if he's a high volume big with turnovers, i'm not ignoring his offense as an input? you always get into arguments where you cherry pick the thing that seems important to you. his offense is extremely important to his value no because he doesnt go heavy into volume. This isnt a guy shooting 30 times a game. The difference in efficiency between last years terrible year and this year is about one missed shot every two games to further emphasize this. Ben Wallace, to reach the same level of efficiency as McDyess LAST season, on the awful year, needed to make 46.5 more shots, on the same number of attempts. So Ben cost more shots last year even with the reduced volume he puts up.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 8:46:05 GMT -8
and nobody questions if Ben is worth it
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Post by π₯ Blake Griffindor π₯ on Mar 11, 2024 9:20:16 GMT -8
So some think break did well others think mouse got off from a bad deal. Some just donβt even care and want more coffee coffee is horrible
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Post by Break on Mar 11, 2024 10:38:06 GMT -8
is this deal better for me than dealing Joe for just the 04? maybe It was this or Smith, made the call because of McDyess stocks and rebound consistency
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Post by Brophdog88 on Mar 11, 2024 10:46:27 GMT -8
is this deal better for me than dealing Joe for just the 04? maybe It was this or Smith, made the call because of McDyess stocks and rebound consistency I said is THIS deal better for me lol I own the Philly pick, makes it more midround
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Post by Break on Mar 11, 2024 10:47:07 GMT -8
It was this or Smith, made the call because of McDyess stocks and rebound consistency I said is THIS deal better for me lol I own the Philly pick, makes it more midround Yeah just saying this was the one deal I mentioned lol I wasnβt lying
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Post by Break on Mar 11, 2024 10:51:10 GMT -8
Excited for a sim
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Post by Break on Mar 11, 2024 10:51:30 GMT -8
Boarding should be improved as well as my Stock portfolio
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Post by Break on Mar 11, 2024 10:53:38 GMT -8
Everyone talking about McDyess efficiency is forgetting heβs joining the team with the biggest ball hog in the league and a shoot first pg
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Post by quicky on Mar 11, 2024 13:19:26 GMT -8
Boarding should be improved as well as my Stock portfolio what you investing in
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Post by Jayda on Mar 11, 2024 13:53:20 GMT -8
great trade for the 76ers
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Post by mouse on Mar 11, 2024 14:04:59 GMT -8
16-11 leading a division isn't exactly amazing. If anything I feel like we can still win the division regardless. I've had McDyess 2 different teams and he honestly hasn't been that much of a difference maker. We've been a high 40s win team either way. If we can bring back Clark on a cheaper extension, I'd prefer to go that route and use the picks as either trade bait, or rookies I can develop. Been wasting ACs and RCs on vets the last couple seasons, and rather get some rookie contract youth to develop and bring on board. McDyess been on the trade block for a week and didn't get one offer. With that in mind, I was already anticipating teams using my cap situation to their advantage hoping to get guys cheaper in the off season especially before FA. Getting 2 picks now was good enough for me. The OKC 04 is a wild card, but the OKC 02 is arguably better or at the same level as the Jazz 02 I gave up to acquire Dyess anyway.
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Post by Jayda on Mar 11, 2024 14:07:49 GMT -8
McDyess aint nothing special
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