OKC NOH

[Braz]

Jun 18, 2024 8:01:34 GMT -8 KD said:

Did break not run outside offense with Nash and ray?

why would you do that

[The Brazilian Blur]

Posey would’ve been perfect in an outside offense than Wallace

[Jayda]

Agreed

[Jayda]

Should i max Barbosa?

[The Brazilian Blur]

Jun 18, 2024 8:16:26 GMT -8 Jayda said:

Should i max Barbosa?

I am too 

[lumley316]

Monster Mash best player in this deal.

[Tiny Diamond]

Jun 18, 2024 8:01:34 GMT -8 KD said:

Did break not run outside offense with Nash and ray?

Not until day 80 lol

[KD]

Jun 18, 2024 8:32:52 GMT -8 Tiny Diamond said:

Jun 18, 2024 8:01:34 GMT -8 KD said:

Did break not run outside offense with Nash and ray?

Not until day 80 lol

Huh

[Ding Dong Boys]

.....

[lumley316]

Jun 18, 2024 8:39:12 GMT -8 KD said:

Jun 18, 2024 8:32:52 GMT -8 Tiny Diamond said:

Not until day 80 lol

Huh

Svedda is that you

[mike]

Who is svedda

[lumley316]

Jun 18, 2024 9:12:52 GMT -8 mike said:

Who is svedda

Huh 

He disappeared 

[Nate The Great]

leave him alone the vedda empire is taking over NESTLE

[Respected GM]

Jun 18, 2024 6:57:32 GMT -8 greeme said:

Jun 18, 2024 6:53:59 GMT -8 The Brazilian Blur said:

Coulda had posey for 1 first

posey is another player not worth his contract. solid 5th starter 6th man guy that you ideally pay 6-8 mil

Posey in his prime (also had a + 15) would never get 6-8 a year loll.

[lumley316]

Jun 18, 2024 9:27:58 GMT -8 Nate The Great said:

leave him alone the vedda empire is taking over NESTLE

K britney spears fan

[Respected GM]

Wallace 3.5/1 stocks. Sucks at everything else. Getting slammed on that contract. Interesting.

[Respected GM]

We can argue about Wallace's contract being justified or not, but it is super clear that GM's greatly underappreciate these "glue" type wing players who can provide 2+ Stock/TO's and are + Rebounders at the 3.

[mike]

Jun 18, 2024 9:27:58 GMT -8 Nate The Great said:

leave him alone the vedda empire is taking over NESTLE

What

[mike]

There’s so many wings that can score, but a handful that are +2 stocks a game

[Jayda]

Jun 18, 2024 10:18:53 GMT -8 mike said:

Jun 18, 2024 9:27:58 GMT -8 Nate The Great said:

leave him alone the vedda empire is taking over NESTLE

What

He works for nestle now

[mike]

Jun 18, 2024 10:20:51 GMT -8 Jayda said:

Jun 18, 2024 10:18:53 GMT -8 mike said:

What

He works for nestle now

Not a moral company

[Jayda]

Jun 18, 2024 10:21:48 GMT -8 mike said:

Jun 18, 2024 10:20:51 GMT -8 Jayda said:

He works for nestle now

Not a moral company

Well you know Steve 

[Respected GM]

Jun 18, 2024 10:21:48 GMT -8 mike said:

Jun 18, 2024 10:20:51 GMT -8 Jayda said:

He works for nestle now

Not a moral company

Are any?

[Respected GM]

I don’t believe we have slave labor in our supply chain though.

[nybombers3]

Jun 18, 2024 10:14:26 GMT -8 Respected GM said:

We can argue about Wallace's contract being justified or not, but it is super clear that GM's greatly underappreciate these "glue" type wing players who can provide 2+ Stock/TO's and are + Rebounders at the 3.

Don't necessarily disagree. For me though, there are two factors. 1 is that GWall isn't really a good fit, especially on a team where they are already starting Ben and need some real scorers. They are also paying 66.7 for their SL and its not rounded well.  2 is that they overpaid when the market didn't call for it. 

[Brophdog88]

managing salary is quite difficult with the HC, spending a max slot on somebody doing what GWall does is a waste, when you can go get a shot funnel that actually shoots from outside. What makes Artest so good for the Celtics is that he costs 5 million, covering a starting spot, funneling shots to Arenas/Kittles, and leaving plenty of salary space. A max makes somebody like GWall neutral at best.

[habes]

i like gwall and like the fit for okc. a non-volume SF is a great way to funnel volume to nash, ray, and mash. just no doubt the value is way off here

[Respected GM]

Jun 18, 2024 10:27:25 GMT -8 nybombers3 said:

Jun 18, 2024 10:14:26 GMT -8 Respected GM said:

We can argue about Wallace's contract being justified or not, but it is super clear that GM's greatly underappreciate these "glue" type wing players who can provide 2+ Stock/TO's and are + Rebounders at the 3.

Don't necessarily disagree. For me though, there are two factors. 1 is that GWall isn't really a good fit, especially on a team where they are already starting Ben and need some real scorers. They are also paying 66.7 for their SL and its not rounded well.  2 is that they overpaid when the market didn't call for it. 

For all intents and purposes of this argument I view the Thunder as a 40-45 win team so I am not saying they are supreme in any way shape are form.  However I see 4 capable scorers on the roster.

Outside offense you can run Allen and Nash and hopefully get 2 20+ PPG scorers.  LMA projects to be a good scorer as well.  Run Mashburn or GWall off the bench in some capacity while the other one starts.  I am not sure how Ben's standing has any relevance on GWall.   

[mike]

so I shouldn’t give more than this for Tony Allen then

[Respected GM]

Jun 18, 2024 10:32:26 GMT -8 Brophdog88 said:

managing salary is quite difficult with the HC, spending a max slot on somebody doing what GWall does is a waste, when you can go get a shot funnel that actually shoots from outside. What makes Artest so good for the Celtics is that he costs 5 million, covering a starting spot, funneling shots to Arenas/Kittles, and leaving plenty of salary space. A max makes somebody like GWall neutral at best.

Maybe, but IMO that analysis needs to be made on an aggregate level and not individually.  GWall is overpaid but Allen and Mashburn arguably are underpaid for their skill level helping balance GWall's contract out a bit.