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Post by kobe on Aug 1, 2024 8:21:14 GMT -8
Idk it seems like low pot players have better tcs than high pot
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Post by Braz on Aug 1, 2024 8:22:18 GMT -8
to be able to trade for a 50 ppg Melo and then draft Paul. Solid rebuild. Goes deeper than that. Melo is great..Paul is great. You put the wrong guys around them and he isnt winning titles. sim a season with Melo Paul and mid players on the back end. Give him Brad miller scola Tskitishvili and some bench depth. I bet they go further than you think! But that’s just my bet idk for sure |
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Post by Braz on Aug 1, 2024 8:22:58 GMT -8
I think the point the league is trying to make is that a super star big has to have certain things to be that. So if boogie will be the best in this class he needs to be a fbb superstar, not exact to what he was. Hence him needing blocks and stuff. It’s like the Jokic argument. Do you make him How he is and he’s useless like last league or do you say okay joker is a top star of our generation. I’ll make him an fbb big star. Scorin, blocks board. Last league we went with option A. And what direction we go is obviously up to Spence Ill make jokic better this version. He didnt turn out good at all. Yah was just trying to make an example that would make sense. Boogie wasn’t a great defender or a huge shot blocker. But with out those he’s not a star big |
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Post by Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 8:24:15 GMT -8
Ill make jokic better this version. He didnt turn out good at all. Yah was just trying to make an example that would make sense. Boogie wasn’t a great defender or a huge shot blocker. But with out those he’s not a star big The key is the tos imo. If hes 25 and 12 with plus stocks hes a star. Then again this league doesnt use bigs well. Bosh could easily be 25 and 12 with stocks but hes never an option. |
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Post by nybombers3 on Aug 1, 2024 8:26:16 GMT -8
It's tough because scoring bigs aren't always (really aren't period) considered as highly as scoring wings. Add in turnovers and low blocks and yeah. Boogie is not going to be as highly rated as he likely should be.
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Post by Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 8:27:57 GMT -8
Too many GMs are scared to try a balanced offense. Its easier to get wings and blocks and go outside.
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Post by DBW on Aug 1, 2024 8:29:15 GMT -8
The whole idea in thos version is that you need to piece together a roster. Lower ratings. Thoughful team building. I think people can get made about Melo vut Mike put a pretty perfect supporting cast around him.. Dbw did the same woth Gil. Its not easy. both players would be carrying teams with whatever players imo. We will see if they r traded How is this true when I have "whatever" players around Gil now and we aren't good? |
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Post by DBW on Aug 1, 2024 8:31:00 GMT -8
Braz cries too much for having a 30/10/3.5 stock SG eligible wing
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Post by DBW on Aug 1, 2024 8:33:19 GMT -8
There are like 4 other PGs that are either averaging Gils numbers or would be if we put them in the same situation. Putting Gil and Melo on the same level is laughable
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:33:49 GMT -8
He wasnt a good defender tho... and Whiteside was a great rebounder and shotblocker and terrible defender |
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Post by Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 8:33:53 GMT -8
both players would be carrying teams with whatever players imo. We will see if they r traded How is this true when I have "whatever" players around Gil now and we aren't good? Even when you had a legit stud #2 in Kittles, you needed Artest, KMart and Clack. Needed. And those guys were a perfect fit. Hornets have Allen, Chandler, Prince. Very good glue players. |
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Post by Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 8:34:47 GMT -8
He wasnt a good defender tho... and Whiteside was a great rebounder and shotblocker and terrible defender He was missed. Im not gonna deny it. It happens. I dont spend hours and hours on the draft file. I hit the main players. I drop handles and blocks and I upload. |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:35:01 GMT -8
Too many GMs are scared to try a balanced offense. Its easier to get wings and blocks and go outside. no the problem is FBB is monumentally weighted toward outside, because bigs shoot 48% from the field while wings shoot 50+% from three |
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Post by DBW on Aug 1, 2024 8:35:16 GMT -8
Mike did a great job building that team, even if Melo was 30 PPG he'd have the best team. 50 PPG is pretty ridiculous but obviously Spence didn't do that on purpose
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:35:54 GMT -8
Paul and Melo is 50 wins on their own if you just give him average players around
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Post by Jayda on Aug 1, 2024 8:36:07 GMT -8
How is this true when I have "whatever" players around Gil now and we aren't good? Even when you had a legit stud #2 in Kittles, you needed Artest, KMart and Clack. Needed. And those guys were a perfect fit. Hornets have Allen, Chandler, Prince. Very good glue players. the problem is not all these guys sign for cheap most test FA and then get maxed and you can’t keep em |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:38:38 GMT -8
and Whiteside was a great rebounder and shotblocker and terrible defender He was missed. Im not gonna deny it. It happens. I dont spend hours and hours on the draft file. I hit the main players. I drop handles and blocks and I upload. wnhen its that egregious of a miss then fix it? |
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Post by habes on Aug 1, 2024 8:39:28 GMT -8
and Whiteside was a great rebounder and shotblocker and terrible defender He was missed. Im not gonna deny it. It happens. I dont spend hours and hours on the draft file. I hit the main players. I drop handles and blocks and I upload. then fix him |
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Post by greeme on Aug 1, 2024 8:40:02 GMT -8
Mike did a great job building that team, even if Melo was 30 PPG he'd have the best team. 50 PPG is pretty ridiculous but obviously Spence didn't do that on purpose I don't like being able to move sfs and not having them take the rebounding hit right away |
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Post by habes on Aug 1, 2024 8:40:08 GMT -8
the draft plan is basically to improve the studs and dock the handles and stocks for others?
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Post by greeme on Aug 1, 2024 8:40:35 GMT -8
I still think most people take bron and maybe even wade over melo at this point
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Post by habes on Aug 1, 2024 8:41:22 GMT -8
it's a horrible class and the comments about mike having a surrounding class around melo are just justifying the status quo. the studs are better than ever, the rest of the league is worse + vanilla
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:41:28 GMT -8
he docks bigs stocks and handles but wings still seem to get the same bases, which means you have a bunch of wings out here with the same shotblocking ratings as bigs, when all bigs do great in FBB is play D, its bad
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Post by habes on Aug 1, 2024 8:41:43 GMT -8
I still think most people take bron and maybe even wade over melo at this point you are obsessively contrarian |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:41:55 GMT -8
I still think most people take bron and maybe even wade over melo at this point nope, not even close |
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Post by nybombers3 on Aug 1, 2024 8:42:02 GMT -8
Celtics biggest wins were the contract situations they have. Gil and Artest get paid way less then their value. Kris was signed for cheaper as well. This let them splurge on other dudes who helped create a good and fairly balanced team with solid depth.
DBW also does a very good job of finding day 4 and 5 guys.
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Post by Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 8:42:05 GMT -8
the draft plan is basically to improve the studs and dock the handles and stocks for others? Who said that? |
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Post by DBW on Aug 1, 2024 8:42:33 GMT -8
I still think most people take bron and maybe even wade over melo at this point Ain't no way |
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Post by habes on Aug 1, 2024 8:43:14 GMT -8
the draft plan is basically to improve the studs and dock the handles and stocks for others? Who said that? you said you hit the main players and then reduce blocks and handles for the rest. obviously you're making megastuds so no real disputing what you're doing when you hit them. and what's the effect going to be on the other players if you're just reducing handles and blocks? |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Aug 1, 2024 8:43:51 GMT -8
PERCENTAGES
[1] 0.462 0.384 0.763 0.550
Lebron, 55% TS, pretty decent, but Melo, scoring 20 more ppg
PERCENTAGES
[1] 0.556 0.492 0.910 0.663
yeah thats just stupid
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